Some EUROPE band statistics.

raginronic
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Some EUROPE band statistics. Feb 2, 2015 17:54:45 GMT 2

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Post by raginronic on Feb 2, 2015 17:54:45 GMT 2

Hi.

I was taking a look at the Wiki page for EUROPE a while ago, and I wanted to find out exactly when each member of the band had joined.

So, using the edit page there, and seeing the dates listed, I compiled a list of the order of entry each member had into the group.

One thing I do want to clarify though before sharing the data I gathered...for the year of 1979, I do not know the exact DAY that they joined. Wiki had it listed as January 1 of that year, but given how little info exists in clear form from that time, I take the Jan. 1 date with a grain of salt.

I also have some uncertainty over Peter Olsson's own data, as VERY little is known about him, including what he looks like.

So, here is the complete table of entry order into the group, as well as the full band lineup combinations in both the FORCE and EUROPE eras. If anyone here has additional data to share, I'll edit the table accordingly.

EUROPE Band Member Timeline

Active Members

Joey Tempest(vocalist)

Unknown 1979 date-March 15, 1992(keyboards until March 15, 1984)
December 31, 1999
October 2, 2003-present

John Norum(guitarist)

Unknown 1979 date-October 31, 1986
December 31, 1999
October 2, 2003-present

John Leven(bassist)

Unknown early 1981 date-April 1, 1981
June 1, 1981-March 15, 1992
December 31, 1999
October 2, 2003-present

Mic Michaeli(keyboardist)

March 16, 1984-March 15, 1992
December 31, 1999
October 2, 2003-present

Ian Haugland(drummer)

August 1, 1984-March 15, 1992
December 31, 1999
October 2, 2003-present

Inactive Members

Peter Olsson(bassist)

Unknown 1979 date-Unknown early 1981 date

Tony Reno(drummer)

Unknown early 1979 date-June 23, 1984

Kee Marcello(guitarist)

November 1, 1986-March 15, 1992
December 31, 1999

Deceased Members

Marcel Jacob(bassist)

April 1, 1981-June 1, 1981

EUROPE Band Configurations

FORCE era

1st(1979-1981)

Joey Tempest-Vocals/Keyboards
John Norum-Guitars
Peter Olsson-Bass
Tony Reno-Drums

2nd(1981 only)

Joey Tempest-Vocals/Keyboards
John Norum-Guitars
John Leven-Bass
Tony Reno-Drums

3rd(April 1-May 31, 1981)

Joey Tempest-Vocals/Keyboards
John Norum-Guitars
Marcel Jacob-Bass
Tony Reno-Drums

4th(FORCE to EUROPE(June 1, 1981-March 15, 1984))

Joey Tempest-Vocals/Keyboards
John Norum-Guitars
John Leven-Bass
Tony Reno-Drums

5th(EUROPE Expansion(March 16-June 23, 1984))

Joey Tempest-Vocals
John Norum-Guitars
John Leven-Bass
Tony Reno-Drums
Mic Michaeli-Keyboards(expansion member)

6th & 9th(August 1, 1984-October 31, 1986 & October 2, 2003-present)

Joey Tempest-Vocals
John Norum-Guitars
John Leven-Bass
Mic Michaeli-Keyboards
Ian Haugland-Drums

7th(November 1, 1986-March 15, 1992)

Joey Tempest-Vocals
Kee Marcello-Guitars
John Leven-Bass
Mic Michaeli-Keyboards
Ian Haugland-Drums

8th(December 31, 1999 only)

Joey Tempest-Vocals
John Norum-1st Guitar
Kee Marcello-2nd Guitar
John Leven-Bass
Mic Michaeli-Keyboards
Ian Haugland-Drums

And now we all know. =)

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Some EUROPE band statistics. Feb 2, 2015 23:21:21 GMT 2

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Post by Eva Tomorrow on Feb 2, 2015 23:21:21 GMT 2

Very interesting post raginronic, thx for share it :thumbs-up:

I was surprised to read that Marcel Jacob was in the band just few months according to this information, I don't know many things about him, I know that he composed with Joey (I think) Scream of anger. And about Tony Reno, does anyone know why he left the band? Well, I love Ian, he is very important in this band not only for his talent and strength on drums but by his attitude, I think he is the main bridge between this band and their fans.

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Some EUROPE band statistics. Feb 2, 2015 23:46:53 GMT 2

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Post by Stein on Feb 2, 2015 23:46:53 GMT 2

Feb 2, 2015 23:21:21 GMT 2 Eva Tomorrow said:

And about Tony Reno, does anyone know why he left the band?

Tony was fired. Apparently the other band members felt that he didn't take the band seriously enough, showing up late (or sometimes not at all) for rehearsals all the time. Considering that the band at this time were enjoying success in Japan and were about to get a US record deal, it was important that everyone in the band were fully committed. I guess they just felt that Tony was the weakest link.

According to an interview with John Norum around 1987, Tony was notified of his firing by a letter written by Thomas Erdtman, who had sent the letter without the band knowing about it. In the same interview Norum also claimed that he was the last one to agree that they should fire Tony.

Last Edit: Feb 2, 2015 23:52:12 GMT 2 by Stein

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Some EUROPE band statistics. Feb 3, 2015 0:00:06 GMT 2

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Post by Eva Tomorrow on Feb 3, 2015 0:00:06 GMT 2

Feb 2, 2015 23:46:53 GMT 2 Stein said:

Feb 2, 2015 23:21:21 GMT 2 Eva Tomorrow said:

And about Tony Reno, does anyone know why he left the band?

Tony was fired. Apparently the other band members felt that he didn't take the band seriously enough, showing up late (or sometimes not at all) for rehearsals all the time. Considering that the band at this time were enjoying success in Japan and were about to get a US record deal, it was important that everyone in the band were fully committed. I guess they just felt that Tony was the weakest link.

According to an interview with John Norum around 1987, Tony was notified of his firing by a letter written by Thomas Erdtman, who had sent the letter without the band knowing about it. In the same interview Norum also claimed that he was the last one to agree that they should fire Tony.

I understand that the band needed someone full time, probably wanted to go another way and the music was secondary for him. We saw Tony and Kee in the auction of guitars last year, it was so nice. Thanks Stein for the info.

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Stein Webmaster Posts: 3,461	Some EUROPE band statistics. Feb 3, 2015 0:04:56 GMT 2 Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top Post by Stein on Feb 3, 2015 0:04:56 GMT 2 No problem. Yeah, it was great to see Tony again, both for the guitar auction and the 30th anniversary package campaign.
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Some EUROPE band statistics. Feb 3, 2015 22:48:33 GMT 2

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Post by ent on Feb 3, 2015 22:48:33 GMT 2

Thanks raginronic! Your post is very interesting. I've spent some time searching infos on the unknown dates but I couldn't find anything. The only thing I found is that, according to this link:

www.freewebs.com/bonjoviandeuropedvdtrading/europeaudio.htm

WC released their song "in my head" in october 1978.

This means that by then Force wasn't born yet and confirms that it probably happened somewhere in 1979.

Here:
www.johnnorum.se/biography/
it is said that Force's repertoire included Since you been gone by Rainbow which was actually released in August 1979. It doesn't mean that there was no Force before that date but it's a time reference that could help a further research, especially if some more audio footage of that period would surface.

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Post by raginronic on Feb 2, 2015 17:54:45 GMT 2

Post by Eva Tomorrow on Feb 2, 2015 23:21:21 GMT 2

Post by Stein on Feb 2, 2015 23:46:53 GMT 2

Post by Eva Tomorrow on Feb 3, 2015 0:00:06 GMT 2

Post by Stein on Feb 3, 2015 0:04:56 GMT 2

Post by ent on Feb 3, 2015 22:48:33 GMT 2