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Post by Ernie Ball on Nov 21, 2012 0:41:45 GMT 2
Just read another review where the writer mentions Norum being sick...and that they cut 5 songs from the setlist compared to the previous show. Did this ever happened before? I think not?.... So Stein, your short setlist above might just be the correct one. (Except Carrie was played before the acoustic part) And now that I think of it, I cant remember any other songs that they played. So yeah.... They got some pretty bad reviews as well by the way. One of them was really bad....and it's from the biggest dutch news site. Clearly, the writer doesnt know what he's talking about and knows nothing about the band.  The headline says: "Europe shows that their days are starting to count". In other words: they are getting old. He also says that Joey is the weakest link in the band by far and that he lost his voice. He used to be right up there with Jon Bon Jovi, but now his voice has suffered some great damage. Also, Joey's micstand twirling was useless and Carrie was the writers highlight of the evening. Well, that says enough about the writers knowledge if you ask me. Here it is, in dutch though: www.nu.nl/muziek/2962554/europe-laat-horen-dagen-beginnen-tellen-in-013.htmlAnother one, not very positive as well. "An evening with mixed feelings": www.rockportaal.nl/europe-013-tilburg-19112012/ |
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Post by Stein on Nov 21, 2012 9:15:33 GMT 2
Someone posted the setlist at setlist.fm: www.setlist.fm/setlist/europe/2012/poppodium-013-tilburg-netherlands-5bdaeb9c.html1. Riches to Rags 2. Not Supposed to Sing the Blues 3. Firebox 4. Superstitious 5. Scream of Anger 6. Carrie 7. Demon Head Acoustic set:8. Drink and a Smile 9. Open Your Heart 10. Bag of Bones 11. Sign of the Times 12. The Beast 13. Rock the Night Encore:Prelude 14. Last Look at Eden 15. The Final Countdown |
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Nov 21, 2012 10:22:48 GMT 2
Post by Michaela Italy on Nov 21, 2012 10:22:48 GMT 2
Ernie, thank you so much for your reports! Too bad for the bad reviews though...it happens too often that people writing these reviews rely on a very confused and scarce knowledge of this band. I hope Europe don't give a damn about these reviews and they continue along their way. You can't make everybody happy and there will be always someone to detract just for the sake of it...  I hope that John N. has recovered... I can say that it's a physical challenge just to attend 2 concerts in a row, what should they say when they perform also 3 in a row and then a break of 1 day and then back again! The important thing is that they keep going with their own strengths, without taking drugs and such to resist like other bands do. No matter for me if the gigs are shorter, but at least they come from their own resources which are extraordinary all the same! |
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Holland
Nov 21, 2012 10:47:15 GMT 2
Post by Eva Tomorrow on Nov 21, 2012 10:47:15 GMT 2
Bad reviews   That's strange The band always has had great reviews about their concerts in live, in fact is their forte point. The opinions that I could read about the Tour South America were magnificent so ...  What Norum is sick? What happens to him?  |
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Holland
Nov 21, 2012 11:27:16 GMT 2
Post by wendy38 on Nov 21, 2012 11:27:16 GMT 2
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Nov 21, 2012 12:03:01 GMT 2
Post by Eva Tomorrow on Nov 21, 2012 12:03:01 GMT 2
Just read another review where the writer mentions Norum being sick...and that they cut 5 songs from the setlist compared to the previous show. Did this ever happened before? I think not?.... So Stein, your short setlist above might just be the correct one. (Except Carrie was played before the acoustic part) And now that I think of it, I cant remember any other songs that they played. So yeah.... They got some pretty bad reviews as well by the way. One of them was really bad....and it's from the biggest dutch news site. Clearly, the writer doesnt know what he's talking about and knows nothing about the band. The headline says: "Europe shows that their days are starting to count". In other words: they are getting old. He also says that Joey is the weakest link in the band by far and that he lost his voice. He used to be right up there with Jon Bon Jovi, but now his voice has suffered some great damage. Also, Joey's micstand twirling was useless and Carrie was the writers highlight of the evening. Well, that says enough about the writers knowledge if you ask me. Here it is, in dutch though: www.nu.nl/muziek/2962554/europe-laat-horen-dagen-beginnen-tellen-in-013.htmlAnother one, not very positive as well. "An evening with mixed feelings": www.rockportaal.nl/europe-013-tilburg-19112012/Thanks for the info,  I've read these reviews ...  and I guess people who write a review about a rock concert should look carefully everything that happens there, but honestly to write about the Joey phrases between songs  ?? and what's is a "decent conversation" for him? and What's they expect that say Joey?? maybe he should to speak of the risk premium of the European countries? jaja jajaja Joey speaks short phrases in the language of the country where he is ... and it's great for the crowd ! In Spain said: De puta madre  !! (words no correct for a boy ...but perfect for a rock concert ! you know ...) He says he is a good singer that's it's the real important thing. |
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Holland
Nov 21, 2012 12:12:03 GMT 2
Post by wendy38 on Nov 21, 2012 12:12:03 GMT 2
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Holland
Nov 21, 2012 15:53:10 GMT 2
Post by Ernie Ball on Nov 21, 2012 15:53:10 GMT 2
Ah, finally, some good reviews  @ tomorrow, Yes I know, the writer doesnt know what he's talking about. There are 24 comments to his article on www.nu.nl (the first link in my previous post)....and he gets bashed pretty hard about it. Not really positive comments....trust me  All i can say is that sometimes it was a bit "messy" in between songs, compared to other Europe concerts. Long breaks, silences, but looking back...i think that was all because of Norum being sick. Another video, here's Drink and a smile: |
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Holland
Nov 21, 2012 18:46:54 GMT 2
Post by Eva Tomorrow on Nov 21, 2012 18:46:54 GMT 2
Ah, finally, some good reviews @ tomorrow, Yes I know, the writer doesnt know what he's talking about. There are 24 comments to his article on www.nu.nl (the first link in my previous post)....and he gets bashed pretty hard about it. Not really positive comments....trust me All i can say is that sometimes it was a bit "messy" in between songs, compared to other Europe concerts. Long breaks, silences, but looking back...i think that was all because of Norum being sick. Another video, here's Drink and a smile: Ok Ernie, I see  ... I guess that it wasn't his best day  ... The stage is amazing  ... so beautiful image the band with their guitars all together, it's great. |
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Post by Ernie Ball on Nov 22, 2012 2:27:38 GMT 2
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That's strange 
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