I always see the first two albums as some sort of stand alone albums. Style wise. They're so much more hardrock compared to TFC and OOTW. But if you take one step at a time you can indeed see a logical evolution per album leading up to OOTW. PiP was a desperate and forced try to go back to the more heavy roots of the first two albums. Without succes in my opinion I'd have to say. But in the end it still stands as strong as ever that the band never made the same album twice! Even after the reunion they had different styles with every album. Very unique and they deserve much more credit for that I think. Only the last two albums (War of kings and Walk the earth) are a bit on the same wavelength style wise. To me that is. And I think it's because for the first time ever they used the same producer twice.
There's also the production wich was very raw in the first two albums, and here comes TFC, wich was produced like a pop album.
That was one of the main reasons why John Norum left the band. He hated the production of TFC, specifically the way the final mix of that album turned out. "The keyboards completely buried the rhythm guitar," he said in an interview with Classic Rock Magazine in 2004.
He has also said in other interviews that he preferred the rough mix of that album and I think I read somewhere that he said he still has a tape of it. I would love to hear that someday.
Post by norumfan1987 on Jun 25, 2019 16:52:26 GMT 2
I would love to hear that someday
Same, i agree with him that the production of TFC wasn't the best, keyboards were too loud, guitars were too low, vocals had too much echo and the horrendous amount of reverb on the drums, i would love to hear a rawer version of that album.
1． The Final Countdown 2． Rock The Night 3． Carrie 4． Danger On The Track 5． Ninja 6． Cherokee 7． Time Has Come 8． Heart Of Stone 9． On The Loose 10． Love Chaser
Bonus Tracks: 11． The Final Countdown (Live) 12． Danger On The Track (Live) 13． Carrie (Live) 14． Seven Doors Hotel (1986 Version) 15． Rock The Night (B-Side Remix) 16． On Broken Wings (B-Side)
Some additional info:
* Special Limited Deluxe Collector’s Edition * Fully Remastered Sound shaped from 24 BIT digital technology * 6 Bonus Tracks * Classic chart topping AOR * 16 page full colour booklet – 4,000 word essay, 6 bonus tracks, enhanced artwork, memorabilia, rare photos and involvement from the band
THE ENORMOUS SUCCESS of ‘The Final Countdown’ single and album, undoubtedly took the world by surprise. Who among us would have imagined that an, up until then, obscure Swedish hard rock band would have the reach and good fortune to elevate their profile to international superstar status so easily. It was a turn of events that reinforces the notion that anything can be possible as long as the stars are in alignment and the songs are undeniable. Europe was formed during the late 70s, initially under the name of Force, before they scored a record deal with CBS and switched their name to Europe. They had recorded, as Europe, two well received albums in their native Sweden but were then taken under the wing of CBS in New York who encouraged the band to pull out all the stops for their third album. It was, in effect, a Cinderella story (albeit a seven year overnight success) and they grasped the opportunity to craft one of the greatest melodic hard rock albums of the ‘80s. On release the record faced slow progress but gradually the title track started to gain traction across the globe, hitting the top spot in several territories, selling over three million copies of the album in the USA alone. Produced by Kevin Elson (Journey, Mr Big) and issued in March 1986, the album contains a concise and extremely well written selection of tracks, including the rousing ‘Rock The Night’, ‘Cherokee’, ‘On The Loose’, and the glorious ballad ‘Carrie’. Of course, it’s the indelible mark left by the title track that the album will be best remembered for. Look out too for some searing guitar work from John Norum.
Vallset 2004 / Oslo 2004 / Mo i Rana 2007 / Lakselv 2008 / Tromsø 2011 / Lakselv 2012 / Sweden Rock Festival 2013 / Tysnes 2013 / Stockholm 2014 / Oslo 2015 / Stockholm 2016
11． The Final Countdown (Live) 12． Danger On The Track (Live) 13． Carrie (Live)
These were also the bonus tracks on the remastered edition that was released in 2001. They're taken from the The Final Countdown World Tour video that was shot at Hammersmith Odeon in London 1987.
14． Seven Doors Hotel (1986 Version)
I'm pretty sure this is the 1985 version and they just wrote 1986 by mistake.
15． Rock The Night (B-Side Remix)
I'm not sure about this one. When they say Remix, it might be this remix of the 1985 version of "Rock the Night":
As you can hear, some parts of the song are looped, for example "What do you want, what do you want, what do you want" and "Rock now, rock now, rock now, rock the night". I don't think this is a good remix.
I really hope we'll get the original version instead:
Bonus Tracks: 11． The Final Countdown (Live) 12． Danger On The Track (Live) 13． Carrie (Live) 14． Seven Doors Hotel (1986 Version) 15． Rock The Night (B-Side Remix) 16． On Broken Wings (B-Side) .
Basically what we expected, nice to see On Broken Wings and the 85' Seven Doors Hotel getting some love, i'm 90% sure that the live tracks are from Hammersmith 87 and for the Rock The Night B-Side Remix... i'm curious about that, is it the one from 1985 or something different? guess we'll have to wait and see.
I would have prefered the three tracks from the On The Loose era since those were never remastered, meanwhile the 85' SDH appeared on the 04' RTN compilation and let's face it OBW has appeared in more Europe compilations than half of the songs that were actually on the album.
I'm interested in how the remasters will sound too.
Disappointing to be honest. The bonus tracks have been doing the rounds online for years. I'm sure that the rock the night remix will be the Version from on the loose and as others have said on broken wings is on most compilation albums and seven doors hotel 85 version was released on the very best of cd.
I think it's time that the band put something really special together for the fans and release the demos and unreleased material from the early period that have never been heard before. It surely can't be that difficult.