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Post by ent on May 24, 2012 11:34:07 GMT 2
Hello Eva. I'll try to be synthetic and clear. The band has done until now 9+1 albums each different from the other. They have proved to be able to play different styles with great results. Each album has anyway been always consistent with itself. Sometimes they chose more easy listening music, sometimes not. The overall quality of the music has always been nevertheless excellent. When the approach was more "easy" the result was a "singles factory" album (like LLAE). When they experimented more "underground" or "difficult" styles they released very omogeneus tracks with a great overall quality. But not suitable to break the charts or boost the album sales in the mainstream market. This is the case of BoB (but it was the same with SS). That's why I don't think they will release more singles (like it was with SS). The funny thing is that, at this stage, they don't seem to care that much about audience success. I think they are more satisfied with good reviews than with good sales. In this perspective I live the very same feelings I had few years ago when SS came out. I don't know if LLAE was an exception but I think so. P.S. After all these words I wouldn't be surprised if they'd announce a new single tomorrow!    |
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Post by watercolourgirl on May 24, 2012 20:38:41 GMT 2
Ent - because I didn't know about SFTD, SS or LLAE until last summer, what were the singles off SS? "Faith" and "Hero" made sense off SFTD, "Forever Travelling" I'm guessing was one from SS, judging by the few appearances Joey and Mic made on TV shows people posted on youtube..any others? But it does seem that they put out a "rocker" track first, followed by a "ballad". "LLAE" and "New Love" off LLAE. Back in the 80s, it seemed to be two "rockers" and then one "ballad", and that was a formula all the rock bands followed back then -- at least over here in North America. I can't say for sure elsewhere.
But I think you are right that they are satisfied with their approach now -- I think the guys are more in control over their music and are enjoying the fact that they don't have record execs pressuring them to have "hits" or sound a certain way. I think the result is better quality songs that'll stand the test of time.
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Post by Stein on May 24, 2012 20:41:51 GMT 2
"Always the Pretenders" was the only single off Secret Society.
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Post by Eva Tomorrow on May 24, 2012 21:58:57 GMT 2
Hello Eva. I'll try to be synthetic and clear. The band has done until now 9+1 albums each different from the other. They have proved to be able to play different styles with great results. Each album has anyway been always consistent with itself. Sometimes they chose more easy listening music, sometimes not. The overall quality of the music has always been nevertheless excellent. When the approach was more "easy" the result was a "singles factory" album (like LLAE). When they experimented more "underground" or "difficult" styles they released very omogeneus tracks with a great overall quality. But not suitable to break the charts or boost the album sales in the mainstream market. This is the case of BoB (but it was the same with SS). That's why I don't think they will release more singles (like it was with SS). The funny thing is that, at this stage, they don't seem to care that much about audience success. I think they are more satisfied with good reviews than with good sales. In this perspective I live the very same feelings I had few years ago when SS came out. I don't know if LLAE was an exception but I think so. P.S. After all these words I wouldn't be surprised if they'd announce a new single tomorrow! Maybe you're right , do not think it a bad thing, no more singles, I think this album is a "whole" and the best way to enjoy it is listen to all songs, is like a good movie or a good book that has to be read and watch it from beginning to end. This band is constantly evolving and I guess that's one of the things that make it more attractive to me, even when they make decisions in which I am not agree. I also think they are more focused on getting good reviews, today is very difficult to sell records although I think the album has good sales. Ent, if the band announcing a new single never know if it was actually planned or your words have had something to do  ... |
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Post by ent on May 25, 2012 10:43:19 GMT 2
"Always the Pretenders" was the only single off Secret Society. Exactly. Morover that video was shooted evidently unwillingly (and it featured the infamous sparkling megaphone! ) I think this album is a "whole" and the best way to enjoy it is listen to all songs, is like a good movie or a good book that has to be read and watch it from beginning to end. That's my feeling too. About the ballad as a second single, I agree that the tradition calls it but I think that the ballads featured in BoB are not suitable (mostly for the lyrics that are IMO too simple in MWMF and can be "misunderstood" in BIAH) |
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Post by guesswho? on May 25, 2012 11:11:36 GMT 2
"Always the Pretenders" was the only single off Secret Society. Exactly. Morover that video was shooted evidently unwillingly (and it featured the infamous sparkling megaphone! ) I think this album is a "whole" and the best way to enjoy it is listen to all songs, is like a good movie or a good book that has to be read and watch it from beginning to end. That's my feeling too. About the ballad as a second single, I agree that the tradition calls it but I think that the ballads featured in BoB are not suitable (mostly for the lyrics that are IMO too simple in MWMF and can be "misunderstood" in BIAH) What does it mean, please : IMO, MWMF, and BIAH ?   |
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Post by ent on May 25, 2012 11:16:36 GMT 2
Sorry, I was a bit in a hurry:
IMO: In my opinion;
MWMF: My woman my friend;
BIAH: Bring it all home
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Post by guesswho? on May 25, 2012 11:36:14 GMT 2
Sorry, I was a bit in a hurry: IMO: In my opinion; MWMF: My woman my friend; BIAH: Bring it all home Thank you ! We're learning many things here !  |
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Post by Michaela Italy on May 25, 2012 12:12:10 GMT 2
It's been very interesting to me to watch again that video that Stein posted a while ago and had been realized in 2003 (if I am not wrong): TFC - One single luck.
I watched it the other night before leaving for Sweden.
And I noticed how Joey looked older and more melanchonic there than today!
I think in what they say there and in the way they have found not to be knocked down anymore by the "music business" and the fans who one day say you're the king and the day after they leave you alone...they are now doing what they want feeling completely free! They are happy now.
You can see it on their faces today and on Joey's one in particular, that they have found their way.
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Post by Eva Tomorrow on May 25, 2012 12:45:31 GMT 2
"Always the Pretenders" was the only single off Secret Society. Exactly. Morover that video was shooted evidently unwillingly (and it featured the infamous sparkling megaphone! ) I think this album is a "whole" and the best way to enjoy it is listen to all songs, is like a good movie or a good book that has to be read and watch it from beginning to end. That's my feeling too. About the ballad as a second single, I agree that the tradition calls it but I think that the ballads featured in BoB are not suitable (mostly for the lyrics that are IMO too simple in MWMF and can be "misunderstood" in BIAH) I think there are two kind of ballads: 1. Classics like "New Love In Time" or "Bring it all home" what is more Europe's typical slow song like "Carrie" or "Open Your Heart" 2. Ballads from last albums as "In My Time" and "My Woman My Friend" with a guitar that is a killer, which is less sweet and more potent torn apart. At this moment I prefer the ballads of the second point, it could work very well on radio and would love to see a video of some of these songs, more restful, relaxing with more soul . |
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