Tone Irene
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Post by Tone Irene on Sept 1, 2012 9:38:40 GMT 2
On forums worldwide, there's a phenomenon called trolling. In case a troll comes along to this particular forum, here's what you should look for: Definition of trolling (taken directly from Urban Dictionary www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=trolling) The art of deliberately, cleverly, and secretly pissing people off, usually via the internet, using dialogue. Trolling does not mean just making rude remarks: Shouting swear words at someone doesn't count as trolling; it's just flaming, and isn't funny. Spam isn't trolling either; it pisses people off, but it's lame. The most essential part of trolling is convincing your victim that either a) truly believe in what you are saying, no matter how outrageous, or b) give your victim malicious instructions, under the guise of help. Trolling requires decieving; any trolling that doesn't involve decieving someone isn't trolling at all; it's just stupid. As such, your victim must not know that you are trolling; if he does, you are an unsuccesful troll. Signs that your trolling is succesful: *Your victim screaming in all-caps at you. *Personal attacks (Calling you a retard, idiot, etc). *Being an Internet Tough Guy. *Making a crude remark, before quickly logging off before you can retort. Signs that your trolling is unsuccesful: *Your victim identifying you as a troll. *Identifying yourself as a troll. *Your efforts being ignored. *Being counter-trolled (See below) So, when you see someone trolling on a forum, try to just cool down and ignore.
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Tone Irene
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Post by Tone Irene on Jul 26, 2012 19:50:17 GMT 2
Well... Europe is prone to play in small places. And in Norway, small means SMALL. Only two hotels to choose from, mostly.. I think this is the 3rd time we shared the same hotel now
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Post by Tone Irene on Jul 25, 2012 22:31:29 GMT 2
Review continuating I was so happy with this concert, I managed to catch Mic's eye during the concert, and he waved at me, apparently recognizing me from earlier John L did that too, I think, but I'm never sure, cause he smiles and looks at everyone in turn, or so it seems. As always during a Europe concert, I was smiling like a maniac, jumping up and down, throwing my fist in the air at the right moments in beat with the music, and laughing/giggling when something funny occured. I was also screaming quite a bit, hope I wasn't too loud, it's a habit I'm trying to break. It's just hard to be cool and composed during such moments, where everything fits together. I was forming my fingers in the shape of a heart for John N to see, but he never saw it, so I was aiming my heart to JL, then JT... I guess that was me seeking attention, but I didn't get it. I'll try to avoid that in the future as well.. I do wanna appear as a 26 year old, instead of a 17 year old.. I managed to catch a JL plectrum from one of the guards after the show, and a friend of mine caught a JN-plectrum for me, my very first! I was sooo happy. And so infuriated with myself a week later, when I had lost my JL-pic, and then the day after, I had decided to put the JN-pic in my wallet for safekeeping.. but now my wallet is stolen... Guess who's mad at herself atm!! The total experience of the show was just fantastic The trip was great, the place was great, the crowd (where I stood at least) was great (no pushing at all where I stood), the band were on top form, the weather was nice, and the setlist was awesome And the perfect ending? Seeing Mic in the hotel. Where, as I can recall, he approached me, not the other way around. He came from behind me, saying "Hey Tone-Iren, long time no see!" (But in swedish, so worded a bit different) I chose this hotel because I'm a member of Choice Club hotels, and they had offered me half price of a room in one of their hotels this summer. The offer came in my e-mail inbox just after the concert was announced in April So it was lucky then, that that's where some band members where staying as well Now I'm ready for a Norway/Sweden-Tour I'll try to be the best fan advertiser anyone has ever seen
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Post by Tone Irene on Jul 25, 2012 18:40:57 GMT 2
ok, the reason for my comment about the raincoat is this: Norway is an easy prey for bad weather, and norwegians in some parts of the country are prone to wear rainhats and raincoats. umbrellas are more for citypeople and citywalks, and not very fit for norwegian weather... your raincoat was actually NICE and fashionable. That's why I commented on it... if it had rained that evening, I would have looked like a foool. I was filmed during a gig in Lakselv 4 years ago, wearing a red jacket that was way too big for me, I bet Stein-Vidar still has the link to it... and that was the reason people recognized me on the screen years after
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Post by Tone Irene on Jul 23, 2012 15:41:10 GMT 2
I'll write more back at my computer, I'm just lying here on my painful back, so answering on my cellphone. Guesswhoo, I really liked your raincoat, and you are very beautiful, give yourself some credit! I might have had nice clothes, but I'm pretty sure all the band see from stage is the face of a witless maniac! That was rude of JL, but sometimes he too must take some decisions about whether to stay and chat or leave for the hotel. Tomorrow: are you Valeria??
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Post by Tone Irene on Jul 22, 2012 18:09:54 GMT 2
I have seen all of these, plus Prisoners in paradise, in Kopervik, october 4th, 2008. I have been to 18 concerts. 12 in Norway, 4 in Sweden, 2 in London. This was a thread started by Tone Irene on the official forum, and I figured I'd repeat it here. Which songs have you heard at the Europe concerts you've been to? I've been to six concerts: June 11, 2004 - Vallset October 19, 2004 - Oslo July 21, 2007 - Mo i Rana July 13, 2008 - Lakselv September 3, 2011 - Tromsø July 7, 2012 - Lakselv The songs I've heard at those concerts: Seven Doors Hotel The King Will Return Stormwind Scream of Anger Open Your Heart Wings of Tomorrow The Final Countdown Rock the Night Carrie Danger on the Track Cherokee Time Has Come Heart of Stone Superstitious Let the Good Times Rock Ready or Not Sign of the Times Seventh Sign Girl From Lebanon Yesterday's News Got to Have Faith Start from the Dark Flames Hero Wake Up Call America Always the Pretenders Let the Children Play Love Is Not the Enemy Last Look at Eden New Love in Town The Beast No Stone Unturned Riches to Rags Not Supposed to Sing the Blues Firebox Demon Head Doghouse
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Post by Tone Irene on Jul 21, 2012 23:08:29 GMT 2
The two front rows filled with fans, I could almost feel their joy, like mine. But there was a few polac fans also in the front row who didn't sing along to either BoB, LLAE or SS-songs... they had travelled all that way just for older songs, apparently. I was fascinated... But, at one point really annoyed.. Joey tossed me his plectrum (ok, it could have been aimed at anyone, but I had it in my grasp for some milliseconds before I slipped it, and it fell to the ground. That's when the polish chick almost threw herself over the fence in order to pick it up, as Guesswhoo-mentioned... I got a bit irritated, both because that plectrum could have been mine, and because she acted so maniacly... About the setlist.. It was almost perfect... Save for one thing: SFTD... The story is that... I was at the very first Europeconcert after the reunion. It took place in Norway on June 11th 2004, and Europe played there, for the very first time, Start from the Dark.... Since then, they've played it every single concert I've been to, except for this, my 18th concert... So in hindsight, I'm dissapointed for that... especially since I re-discovered the greatness of this song a couple of months ago.... I suddenly started listening more intently to the guitar-riff of the verse, and then I was really looking forward to digging it live again. Well, hopefully next time tbc
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Post by Tone Irene on Jul 21, 2012 22:35:18 GMT 2
Then we went outside to stand in queue in order to get to the front row... No problem at all.. but while we stood there (approx. 15 people), I talked to a few people, among others Valeria... She said her name, didn't ring a bell to me, then I said my name, and she says "oh, you're on my facebook!", and at once I remembered her last name Was very nice to meet her, she's so sweet. I also chatted with the other norwegian fans I didn't know before that day, and one of the girls said she recognized me from Skien a couple of years ago (Europe played there... it was only 30 minutes from Langesund), she said we had talked then, which I couldn't remember, and that she recognized my tattoo. She also said that that tattoo had inspired her to get one, then showed me the E on her arm, that was the "new" E, the one with the ring around it. And she'd also written in small letters "no stone unturned" across it. It was soooo nice. There were also some people from Poland. They opened and let people enter, and then I got my first surprise: MERCHANDISE!! Tord the merch-man told me a couple of years ago that it's so hard with customs in Norway, so it's hardly worth bringing merch to Norway from Sweden. But this time they had I bought the over-the-shoulder-bag, and I simply LOVE it. I stationed myself front center, while my friends that I had traveled with took places elsewhere (but of course in the front), according to their preferances. Then we waited. I was beside Valeria, so I chatted more with her. Michael from Austria was so gentle as to hold on to my space while I was away for a little while... Wonderful fans, really. The outdoor venue filled up real slowly. Norwegians are a slow breed But it looked quite filled up when the boys finally hit the stage Not very long before the concert started, Guesswhoo showed up just behind me. I had been looking for her during the entire day. She was soo sweet. Calm, which matched my energy buzz real nice. I haven't seen Europe live since Tromsø in September, so I think my excitement was pouring over. But they all beared with me I was so blasted away by the concert. I had deliberately tried not to catch any setlists from the BoB-tour, cause I wanted to be caught by surprise. So when Stein sent me the setlist on an SMS a week before the concert, I just deleted it The Bag of Bones-songs were awesome, and I have no doubt that when they're filling the shows with more BoB-songs in the fall, they will do so with as much success as they did in this concert. They blasted the audience away with Riches to Rags, then Firebox... then came Superstitious, and then Demon Head... I was IN AWE!! tbc
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Post by Tone Irene on Jul 21, 2012 20:54:12 GMT 2
my back is killing me, so I can't sit too long at the time... will finish later tonight or tomorrow
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Post by Tone Irene on Jul 21, 2012 17:57:26 GMT 2
At this point it was partly clouded, partly sunny. I had bought a cool t-shirt for the occasion: I wanted a top that revealed my back, so that the E was easily visible. And then I'd found a top who was partly open in the back, and on the front there was the shape of a skull, made out of lots of skulls; my own bag of bones-t-shirt. We sat chatting, looking down upon the crew walking across the open yard to the sounaged-booth, back into the back of the stage, and sometimes up on stage. They played a bit themselves on our bands instruments, so I was for a bit worried that the band itself wouldn't do any soundcheck. But then the band members appeared in the yard (remember: we had perfect view to all of this), talking to the sound crew, going uon stage to play a bit on their instruments and so on. Then the restaurant people told us that the band wanted a closed soundcheck, so we had to go inside the restaurant... we still had a perfect view (through dirty windows), and the sound was really good as well, when the band got up on stage and played through Riches to Rags and Superstitious. I filmed my friends during both, where we would mime the song and lyrics on both songs. I won't share those videos, mostly because I look really retarted in both videos. After the soundcheck I decided to check the rest of the house to locate a bathroom. I went throught the restaurant (or actually, it was more like café/bar/catering-place) to look for a bathroom. On my way to the bathroom I found a piano! My friend who had been sitting at the café in the first place was with me, so I just HAD to boast to her about my abilities to play Europesongs on the piano. (I didn't boast, I just asked that she waited while I played a bit for her). So I played Carrie, Tomorrow, bit of Coast to Coast and The final countdown. During one of the songs (I kept missing at some of the keys because I had to stand while playing, and I was unfamiliar with the piano) I saw in a flash that Ian was walking by. I stopped playing, and said the first thing that came to mind "I'm sorry for playing your songs!" (In english)... He said that was fine, he was just looking for some food. So apparently they were eating in that building. Ooops. I'm kinda thrilled, to have played some Europe stuff on the piano in earshot of a band member... not really sure if he was listening at all, or noticing...If I ever get that opportunity again, I'll continue playing, and play BETTER. That means more practise, I guess. When I got back to the friends around the table, some of them were talking to Ian. So I wanted to say properly hi as well, and then I got to show him my tattoo (open back, you know)... then he showed me his He had some photos with some norwegian fans I did not yet know, so I asked for one with him as well, was very hard to resist. i know I already have some pics with him... it's just... cooool, you know. To be continued
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