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Post by wales55 on Nov 14, 2016 4:00:46 GMT 2
This is the first time that I've ever been critical of Europe but why oh why play the whole of War of kings? I took 4 friends to London with me that have never seen Europe live and they all lost interest during the album. I went to the toilet just after days of rock n roll and the guys in there weren't happy about not hearing songs from other albums and I did get the feeling that Europe got it wrong. The final countdown album was fantastic and loved hearing it live. But for me I felt they shouldnt have played the whole of war of kings.
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Post by marco17 on Nov 14, 2016 4:38:29 GMT 2
This is a bit off the topic of this specific concert and more a general comment, but I wonder if this is sort of their way of trying to bridge the new and old in the same show. I agree, I may not want to hear all of WOK, especially in order, at the expense of missing on out on other tracks. During TFC, OOTW, & PIP tours, they pretty much played the full albums minus a song or two, but they mixed it up, it wasn't from start to finish. Possibly since it's a short tour and they play these areas often, they felt like they could pull it off without much criticism. They certainly wouldn't try it in the US or other seldom played areas. My gut tells me that we won't see the same anniversary attention for OOTW and PIP we have for WOT and TFC since Norum didn't play on them.
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Post by Stein on Nov 14, 2016 8:41:36 GMT 2
Even though I loved the Stockholm concert, I see what you mean, wales55 and marco17. Playing the full War of Kings album can be considered to be a bit of a risk, and not everyone may think it paid off. Personally I think it did. But I guess you just can't please everyone.
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Post by Tone Irene on Nov 14, 2016 12:18:50 GMT 2
When first realising at the beginning of the Stockholm show that they would do all of Wok, I had mixed feelings. But for me personally, it turned out to be a magical experience! It was in London as well yes, it was a risk, but seeing as the show as a whole had something for all tastes, I think the general feeling was that it was worth it. I know the band certainly enjoyed it!
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Post by Stein on Nov 14, 2016 14:06:42 GMT 2
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Post by Tone Irene on Nov 14, 2016 21:04:18 GMT 2
Hello again now I've landed safely back home.. intending to write about my past experiences sometime tonight.... we'll see how it goes. I'm curious; who came to say hi to me after the London gig? I'm thinking of a blonde woman who came from Finland, and is also a part of this forum.... You told me what your nickname was several time, but I have forgotten... I have an excellent memory, but after a Europe gig it sorts of goes into hiding....
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Post by poundingheart on Nov 14, 2016 22:44:10 GMT 2
Great show! Magical experience! Stays on top of one of the most memorable shows ever. The vibe from the crowd around had a role to play there, too. Before the show I already looked forward to hear the unplayed songs from WOK, especially Children of the mind which I always thought would kick ass live - and they didn't disappoint me on that! Like vielip commented, Light it up was perfect, too. It seemed like Norum's fingers warmed up more and more towards the end of the show, and in Heart of stone, On the loose and Love chaser (and why not Time has come) he showed his striking virtuosity. The solos sounded flawless, flowing and emotional...and I hoped it could go on forever! It was so nice to meet some of you guys, Michaela Italy and your daughter - you rocked the front row! And Tone Irene, yes: it was me you were talking to - our trip from far north paid back with amazing experience, once-in-a-lifetime gig, don't you think !? Stefania, so nice to meet you too for the first time and chat while waiting for the band after the show. In every aspect, great moments lived! Maybe I also met other forumers without realizing/connecting to your forum name. We had such great time and you guys are the best like your taste with bands!
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Post by Tone Irene on Nov 14, 2016 23:20:55 GMT 2
Oh, it definitely paid off! I regret not having a picture taken with you, poundingheart. Even though I hadn't met you before, still having this forum around means very much to me And meeting forum members is also important. Glad you came to say hi No doubt will meet again, eh? (after staying with my friend who's also finnish but live in England, I have started thinking of going to see Europe in Finland sometime!)
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Post by poundingheart on Nov 15, 2016 9:15:21 GMT 2
Yes, no doubt! And if they ever return to Finland, I'm certain to fix my timetable for that. So see you again, one way or another! 😊
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Post by vielip on Nov 15, 2016 14:35:22 GMT 2
After Utrecht yesterday I can now firmly say that it is a smart move to play the whole of WoK before bursting into the 80's frenzy! In London I noticed far more younger fans compared to Holland. Europe have something going in the UK since let's say Last look at Eden and that definitely pays off! The response they got from the crowd when announcing the whole of WoK was much better then I feared for (I don't recognise any of the booing/groaning the woman mentioned in the review). Totally different to Utrecht yesterday. No booing or whatsoever but most of the Dutch people came to the gig for nostalgia reasons. So to kick their asses and make them realise Europe isn't about nostalgia only, it was VERY smart to make them experience todays Europe by playing WoK first. And to be honest, I heard positive comments around me. In fact I didn't hear one negative one at all so far. But I realise that you simply can't please every single person in the audience...
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